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		<title>Wikipedia&gt;MalnadachBot: Fixed misnested tags and reduced Lint errors. (Task 12)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fixed misnested tags and reduced &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/index.php?title=WP:LINT&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;WP:LINT (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Lint errors&lt;/a&gt;. (&lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/index.php?title=User:MalnadachBot/Task_12&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;User:MalnadachBot/Task 12 (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Task 12&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Pages to consider for inclusion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Wikipedia:Verification methods]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Overlink crisis]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Citation overkill]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Bombardment]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Citation needed]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Help:Citations quick reference]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Improving referencing efforts]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Advanced footnote formatting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Citing sources/Example edits for different methods]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Citing sources/Example style]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:List-defined reference how-to guide]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:How to mine a source]]&lt;br /&gt;
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---'''''—&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Gadget850&amp;amp;nbsp;(Ed)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:darkblue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;'''''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
;More&lt;br /&gt;
:I use these 2 regularly, and would have liked to have known about them earlier in my wiki-journey. Possibly they should be listed here?&lt;br /&gt;
*http://toolserver.org/~holek/cite-gen/&lt;br /&gt;
*http://ottobib.com/ (also http://zeteo.info/references.php )&lt;br /&gt;
:There's also the bots which fill in fields, based on what info is avail. They don't seem to be listed in any navboxes currently? Maybe add here?&lt;br /&gt;
*http://toolserver.org/~verisimilus/Bot/DOI_bot/ (via [[WP:UCB]])&lt;br /&gt;
*http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Reflinks&lt;br /&gt;
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:And today whilst trying to find an ottobib-equivalent for DOIs – (I found http://www.crossref.org/guestquery/ (doi-based-lookup near the bottom) but it doesn't return wikicode information, just xml) – I read more about {{tl|cite doi}} and the related bot-filled templates (currently listed at [[Template:Citation Style 1]]). I'm just mentioning them for completism, and to aid anyone else searching in the future. —[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 18:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== footnote1,2,3,4 links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm thinking we should remove the [[Wikipedia:Footnote1|footnote1]], [[Wikipedia:Footnote2|footnote2]], [[Wikipedia:Footnote3|footnote3]], and [[Wikipedia:Footnote4|footnote4]] links as well as the supporting &amp;quot;Italics indicate deprecated or obsolete content.&amp;quot; row. I just don't see that this long-since obsolete material would be useful enough to editors to be worth cluttering up the template. [[User:Jason Quinn|Jason Quinn]] ([[User talk:Jason Quinn|talk]]) 06:23, 2 July 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Embedded citations ==&lt;br /&gt;
I removed the link to  [[Wikipedia:Embedded citations|Embedded citations]] from this template ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWikipedia_referencing&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=807202249&amp;amp;oldid=762437376 at 15:19, 26 October 2017]) -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 09:08, 27 October 2017 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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Copied from my talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that embedded citations are outdated but couldn't the link be kept in the navbox in some &amp;quot;historical&amp;quot; section since it's still a page relevant to the template?[[User:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|talk]]) 15:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:@[[User:&amp;amp;#42;Treker]] I have copied you comment from my talk page so that others can see it.&lt;br /&gt;
:I see it as [[WP:BEANS]]. How is it still relevant? -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 15:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I simply felt that it would be of interest for someone who would be looking up citations on wikipedia to see some historical stuff becuse why else keep an outdated page if not for people to look at it out of curiosity. I doubt many common vandals would be familiar enough with wikipedia to find this template. As for being relevant. The literal point of a navbox is to link articles that share somthing in common, which that article, outdated or not still qualifies as in my opinion.[[User:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|talk]]) 15:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There is already far too much policy and guidance available for inexperienced editors to try to get their heads around without cluttering up navigation pages, with stuff that has been out of date for years. The relevant section for this is [[WP:CITE#Avoid embedded links]] -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 17:20, 26 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I guess we just disagree. I don't see the harm in having it there. I don't see how it would be clutter.[[User:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|talk]]) 19:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Then I guess we should use the [[wp:dispute resolution]] process. Are you happy to use [[Wikipedia:Third opinion]]? -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 09:03, 27 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yes I think that would be great.[[User:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|talk]]) 09:05, 27 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Image:Searchtool-80%.png|15px]] '''Response to [[WP:3O|third opinion request]] (whether to keep a link to [[Wikipedia:Embedded citations]] in an historical section)''':&lt;br /&gt;
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|style=&amp;quot;padding-left:0.6cm&amp;quot;|Greetings, {{u|&amp;amp;#42;Treker|★Trekker}} and {{u|PBS}}! I have read through the conversation here and agree with PBS's recommendation to remove the link to [[WP:Embedded citations]] from the navbox. In my opinion, including it in its original location gives it a significance it does not warrant given its status as an inactive policy. A historical section would be better, but even though I agree that the likelihood of someone using inline citations as a result of seeing it in a historical section is pretty low (I could think of far easier ways to edit perniciously than to correctly use inline citations), to be honest I think a historical section serves only to make the template longer than it needs to be. It's my opinion that we should keep the template as a quick reference for &amp;lt;em&amp;gt;relevant&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; policies, advice, and documentation.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;That being said, I think a historical section in the template &amp;lt;em&amp;gt;documentation&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt;, which would be visible on [[WP:Embedded citations]] itself, is a great place to include historical information on what was at one point part of the template. I could even see adding a summary and/or links to discussions as to why they are no longer included. That would certainly provide the curious types with better information than they would get by a simple historical section of the navbox, and keep the navbox as succinct and relevant as possible. What do the two of you think? [[User:Cthomas3|'''''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Courier New; font-size: larger; color: black;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: brown;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;C&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;Thomas&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;font-size: x-small; color: brown;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''''']] ([[User talk:Cthomas3|talk]]) 18:45, 29 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think it seems like a good idea.[[User:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:&amp;amp;#42;Treker|talk]]) 18:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I won't implement it, but I won't oppose it. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 21:05, 31 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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